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		<title>An almost Howto - IMAP on the Cheap</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Perry</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I have this goal to learn how to make things work in Linux-land.&#160; I assign myself a &#8220;project&#8221; and then go off and read about it, learn it, and try to solve it.&#160; Last night and today, I set two goals for myself to solve and not ask for help from some people I know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this goal to learn how to make things work in Linux-land.&nbsp; I assign myself a &#8220;project&#8221; and then go off and read about it, learn it, and try to solve it.&nbsp; Last night and today, I set two goals for myself to solve and not ask for help from some people I know that would be willing to help.&nbsp; Here they are:</p>
<p>Set up a secure IMAP server under my firewall and not reachable from the outside unless I <a href="http://www.openvpn.net">VPN</a> or use <a href="http://www.squirrelmail.org/">Sqirrelmail</a> to get there.&nbsp; I chose to use <a href="http://www.dovecot.org/">Dovecot</a> which is pretty easy all in all.&nbsp; On Ubuntu its as easy as an &#8220;apt-get install&#8221;.&nbsp; I wanted to write a onger SSL certificate for it so I processed one from an old bookmark I have which I still go back to every so often for these things.&nbsp; The IMAP server should offer SSL logins.</p>
<p>Set up a secure Postfix Mail server using SASL and TLS.&nbsp; Now this one got a bit more interesting.&nbsp; I followed <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix">this page</a> (or so I thought).&nbsp; But there are a number of steps in there which you have to carefully grep and get correct.&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t you stand the chance of running into Thunderbird complaining that the SMTP server does not offer STARTTLS in its EHLO.&nbsp; Not&nbsp; a nice thing.&nbsp; But when I telnet there, it seems to.&nbsp; So, if you follow this howto, be sure to follow it step by step.&nbsp; Create all the certs it says.&nbsp; Copy them just like it says.&nbsp; Edit the /etc/defaults/saslauthd file and don&#8217;t leave anything out.&nbsp; My big mistake was to not copy things the way it said there and I also got the location wrong for some of the certs.&nbsp; If you are not offered up a SSL cert when you first try to send email after doing the steps, something is bad.&nbsp; Stop and recreate the wheel.&nbsp; I had to do this a few times.&nbsp; If you follow the howto, you get there.&nbsp; That&#8217;s a good thing to say about a howto, BTW.</p>
<p>But why, you ask, why would I want all of this setup if no one can reach it?&nbsp; Well, that&#8217;s a habilis answer friends.&nbsp; Its because I can.&nbsp; Its a challenge and I like making it work.&nbsp; I will never want to reach the server unless I VPN or use the webmal interface or ssh and use mutt.</p>
<p><b>Yahoo Mail &#8212; The extreme suckage factor</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to vent on Yahoo!&#8217;s parade.&nbsp; But their mail program, how they manage spam, how it records new mail.&nbsp; It all is kind of broken or at least badly bent.&nbsp; I have been getting more spamoli the last weeks then ever before.&nbsp; In one day I got over 25 spamoli and for months before, I never got a single one.&nbsp; Someone borked something.&nbsp; So being a good netizen, I wrote a helpful email to their Help desk.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Know what?&nbsp; Their help desk is borked too.&nbsp; I get a form letter back telling me about the bulk mail folder.&nbsp; I asked not about that folder because I could care less about that folder.&nbsp; I asked why.&nbsp; What has happened or what has changed to make Yahoo mail be so bad?&nbsp; It also seems overwhelmed with the sheer number of users sometimes and it can never get the number of email that are new right.</p>
<p>I hate to say this and rain on <a href="http://www.tyde.net/hobo/2008/02/dear_jerry_please_dont_sell_ya.html">Art&#8217;s parade</a>.&nbsp; But someone needs to go in there and fix things.&nbsp; Its borked, man.&nbsp; So off I went back to Google and Google Apps.&nbsp; I like the overall feeling of Google Apps and I like the idea its not really done because it gives me some deep down feeling that I too can help fix things I find along the way.</p>
<p>With Yahoo!, things just seem broken and all I get are less than helpful form mail responses perhaps from real live people telling me how bulk mail the trash folder works.&nbsp; Gimme break. So I broke.&nbsp; And I&#8217;m gone.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t do enough to earn my Mail+ and the changes to the Mail app are not even close.&nbsp; Its like covering a cow dung with pretty electric lights.&nbsp; You know underneath it still smells but its pretty on the outside.</p>
<p><b>SCALE-ness</b></p>
<p>Yes.&nbsp; The time has come folks.&nbsp; I took tomorrow off from work and I&#8217;m heading down to Los Angeles in the morning to do <a href="http://www.socallinuxexpo.com">SCALE time</a>.&nbsp; This show has become the one for me to go revel in the Linux-ness.&nbsp; And friends are going there too like Ed and DK and others.&nbsp; I may write a blog of the day report on what I do and the fun I have there.&nbsp; If you are going, look us up.&nbsp; We&#8217;ll be</p>
<p>At a personal level to sum it all up; I&#8217;ve reached 185 pounds or so.&nbsp; That means I have lost 90 pounds.&nbsp; I&#8217;m gonna slip inbetween the tiles on the floor here pretty soon <img src='http://lnxpowered.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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